Podcast Episode 16: Raising Healthy Kids - Part 2 (with transcription)
Aug 16, 2022
Welcome to our 16th episode of True Health Solutions Podcast with Dr. Lonnie Bagwell and Brigitte Spurgeon.
In this episode we provide the solutions to the problems discussed in Part 1. Join us as we address some of the major health concerns we face raising our kids like screen time, nutrition, activity and more.
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Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (00:00):
So there was a study that said that, uh, that children will choose to cook in the kitchen if offered over playing video games. Welcome to the True Health Solutions Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, stress, inflammation, and functional health clinician.
Brigitte Spurgeon (00:17):
And I'm your co-host Bridget Spurgeon Metabolism and nutrition expert.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (00:21):
This podcast is where we bring hope, truth, and inspiration for your holistic health journey
Brigitte Spurgeon (00:26):
Because the world needs the best version of you.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (00:31):
All right. So welcome back to True Health Solutions podcast. I am your host, Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, here with the
Brigitte Spurgeon (00:36):
Bridget Spurgeon.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (00:38):
And we are wrapping up our two part series on raising healthy children. And I wanted to start off with where we ended last time. Uh, when we ended the last episode, we were talking about, uh, screen time and how it's negatively impacting the brain. Uh, and the truth is it's impacting the brain negatively in ways that we don't even fully understand because we haven't lived long enough with that type of exposure to know the long term repercussions. And really the solution, which today's the solutions podcast from everything we talked about last time, and the solution, um, is equally as, um, unknown as challenging to understand, because again, it hasn't been around long enough, but there have been some studies that have been going on for a little while, and they're starting to report the data in different age groups. And so I wanted to start, you know, so, so something as simple as not doing it can still be considered a solution even if it's not what people want to hear, right?
(01:30):
And so how do we, So what's the solution for the negative impact of the digital world on our children's brains that controls everything in their body? Um, and, uh, and here I have it. So from ages zero to two, the recommendation is zero time in front of any kind of a screen. So no handing the phone, no iPads, no iPad holders onto the, you know, the car carriers sitting in the back to, to get the babies to zone out completely and all that stuff there. That, that it's very clear they said that there's absolutely zero benefit whatsoever and only a ton of detriment to all of those developing neural pathways up to the age of two. And then, uh, and then as some of those pathways are being developed, there can be some exposure to those type of graphical digital things. And so, um, but then they said that between the ages of two and five, the maximum, so this isn't like run it up to the max every day, right?
(02:26):
But the maximum exposure should be one hour again or less, right? So maximum no more than 60 minutes in a given day. So if that's 15 minutes to the grocery store, 15 minutes from the grocery store, that's half of it right there. And then at the same time, it's uh, uh, 15 minutes each way, 30 minutes and then, you know, maximum of 30 minutes for the rest of the day. Um, and then, uh, for anybody that's six plus as a part of this study, in review of the data they're talking about, uh, absolutely, like completely unknown, They have no idea at that point, we, we, it starts to become a factor. Are they sleeping enough? Are they getting physical activity? Are they meeting other behavioral requirements for, you know, developing proper health? Um, and the best that we can start to do is try to, you know, do ratios they say of like, if you're gonna have, uh, you should have two times as much physical activity as digital exposure, right?
(03:17):
So if you're gonna have 60 minutes, then you should be active for, you know, the minimum requirement daily for children is 60 minutes, but even up to now 120 minutes to offset some of the negative effects of the digital. Which to most parents that are listening to that right now, they're like, How's that even possible? And, and we agree <laugh>, like, you know, the data is staggering of how negatively impactful the digital stuff is. So we just have to do the best that we can to reduce that limited and get as much activity, have clean nutrition and other behavioral support. So any comments on that for you? Uh, Bridget, as far as just that digital exposure, you know, behavioral changes, et cetera?
Brigitte Spurgeon (03:54):
Yes. I would say that you, um, as a family have to be intentional with getting outside getting in the outdoors sunshine, nature, like Dr. Bagwell said activity as much as possible. So that means you have to be really intentional, whether that be your evening time and then also your weekend time value experiences as a family. And I would just structure them so that they are outdoors. I know Dr. Bagwell with his boys, you know, he takes them camping and, and hiking and you know, they, um, they've really, you know, their family culture is around, around the outdoors. And, and I love that. And, you know, some families, they may do it around travel experiences will, that's still great. It's like you just have to get them out the house and they will embrace that. That is way more exciting. You wanna make, you wanna create experiences that are more exciting than sitting in front of a screen or a game or a TV show. Um, you know, give them an an epic life as kids.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (04:59):
Amen. Exactly. That's the best way to put it. And that speaks a little bit to one of the other solutions, which is exercise. And most people don't even realize that the recommendation for total exercise in a day is 60 minutes, which I think, I think I read the stat was only one third of all children across the board of all ages are getting 60 minutes of actual exercise outside. Right? Which, and if you think about it, a lot of times, I would say when they're younger, like they, we, you do go for little walks and things like that quite a bit. So it just really tells you about how much exercise older kids are not getting as they're being exposed to digital interventions. Right. Did the world of digital distraction, um, and also, and and
Brigitte Spurgeon (05:38):
To speak more about get an energetic dog.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (05:41):
Yeah. Right. Exactly. Right, Exactly.
Brigitte Spurgeon (05:43):
And have the kids take the dog for walks three times a day like we're doing here in Ireland.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (05:47):
So, so many options, right? Of just kitten moving to some degree. But I like what you said, and it was absolutely a part of what we've talked about is there's a lot of things that kids have interest in, in, but we've always said, Okay, you want to play chess and learn chess, or you wanna learn the guitar, that's amazing. It's got incredible benefits for your brain, et cetera, et cetera. But you must do something active at the same time. You, you, we, we've never said you can just do something that's mentally stimulating or, or definitely can't just do something that's digital mindless, right? You have to do some. So now my kids do things like competitive archery. Again, backpacking, like anything that gets 'em outside. Um, and, um, and, you know, proves hand-eye coordination, developing, you know, continue to develop that. Um, we're all for it and encourage it like nobody's business.
(06:32):
And you can't, your kids will choose those things. You said it, I want to re reiterate that. They will choose the adventure. They will choose the adventure of their own life versus some mindless adventure that's caught in a, behind a screen. Okay? Like, and that leads us into what really the number one thing is if you want to, you want your kids to be healthy, and nobody wants to hear this, right? But you have got to fully commit to being healthy and, and living one step ahead of how healthy you want your children to be. Right? That is our number one shared solution. We've talked about it before. We, we teach it all the time. Um, you know, and, uh, and I remember when Colin, my older son now, when he looked up me, I would be just like you dad. And, uh, you shared a story on last podcast about a dad and their children, you know, and I remember looking up and, um, when he was a kid, he looked right up at me and I was like, having that melt moment, you know, like, you're just like trying to hold the tears back.
(07:28):
And then as we continued to talk, I realized, like, he might think that as my son, but also he was referencing in that moment how big I was. He's like, I wanna be big like you. And I just remember thinking that could mean a lot of things. Like, I have a lot of work to do here, right? Because that could mean he wants to be, you know, big and strong, right? That kind of thing. But also I'm also showing him that big, unhealthy big is okay also. And it wasn't. And so it really started to get my mind turning of like, okay, like I teach a lot and we do a lot. Now I have to be a lot different. And so, um, and that was the beginning of me taking responsibility, um, you know, for what I was showing my children. And let's just be clear.
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Let's be, I mean, our world's crazy. We got busyness all over the place, you know, running all over and all that stuff, whatever. I don't get this perfect all the time. I mean, I think it's important to say that like I gotta teach it how it is, right? We're gonna teach truth, but I'm also gonna share the truth about, you know, like, uh, you know about how I don't, I don't have a 100% perfect gluten free life over the last 365 days, right? Like, you know, like they're seeing me, uh, implore many of the rules that we teach them, but I'm also not operating outside of those rules, right? So one of the examples would be like, and in that case, when it comes to food, be like the 80 20 rule, like we don't, the 20% that they're consuming is certainly not the worst of the worst, right? They're not having like awful disgust. They're not eating high fructose corn and syrup like we talked about last episode. They're not having any of that, right? That's bad regardless. Um, but, uh, we do raise them in such a way that their food that they're eating at home consistently is always organic, clean, pristine, right? So that when we are out, they can choose to have something that their friends are having and they don't feel like they're completely deprived.
Brigitte Spurgeon (09:20):
Yeah. I would even say that perfectionism, when it comes to food, that even becomes problematic in itself. So there definitely is. I I love the 80, the 80 20 or, or the 90 10 or I think 80 20 is, you know, great for families because the, the 80% that like, that's forming the foundation for, for their selves and their future, but they, they don't become obsessive about their nutrition. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they don't stress about their nutrition. Like, you know, Hey, I'm out with friends or, or I'm at a birthday party. It's not as big of a deal, but you know what happens? And you've probably seen, seen this, but when they eat well at home and when they're on vacation with you and you're buying those good things, now they're making better choices by themselves when they are out with friends or with with other people because they don't like the, the poor quality foods anymore.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (10:16):
That's right. And we, uh, that is exactly how it's worked out for us. And, uh, and they, they, they know places. There's places that they've never eaten, lots of fast food places they've never stepped foot in. Um, and then they've been caught out on like, uh, when they ride with other families on like, uh, camping trips and stuff like that, and they stop at a fast food place, and they absolutely will choose the salad option, you know, there, because that's the best thing that, so they can avoid most of the other stuff. So you're absolutely right. And, and again, it's, it's about like, we have to be, we our why has to be so big. And when I, when I keep saying the word why, I just picture my two boys like a picture of them in my, in my face right now. And, and they're, they, they're big enough for me to live differently so that they can live differently.
(11:00):
And so, and and, and to your point, like I I, I shared this on another episode. It's, we go to the beach and we have beach nachos. Like we're eat nachos at the beach. It's a guarantee, it's a guarantee. 100% of the time we're gonna have that because that's one of our great family memories. But it's c eight day chips, grain-free, you know, goat shredded, goat cheddar, You know what I mean? It's all the healthiest version of that that you could ever have. And they prefer that over any other nachos. Like there's no nachos you can get at the restaurant, be why? Because we've, we've, we've trained that into them. There's a memory and emotion attached to it, right? And so if they want nachos, they want the ones that they've had many times with mom and dad that they make together in the kitchen, you know, et cetera.
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And, um, and so, and I give all the credit to, to my wife for, um, you know, staying in there during the tough battles over eating avocado when they're little, you know, before they could talk and, you know, all those things. It's just something you have to be committed to for the, the long haul. And, um, and, uh, and then you, when you're doing the 80 20 rule, you gotta walk 'em through the 20% consistently. You can't just say, Oh, 80 20 rule, and then go do whatever you want. You walk 'em through the best choices. Um, but now at ages 13 and 17 here in the next couple of weeks, um, then they are, uh, they're absolutely making amazing choices that blows me away. And I will be honest, like I said before, like, I know my food allergies, they know their food allergies, like we do testing, um, and, uh, and they can, and, and they'll eat cleaner at some meals because of their food allergies than I do, like when we go out to eat, because I, I'll, I'll eat within mine and they'll eat within theirs, and their food actually ends up being cleaner and nobody even talks about it.
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They just order accordingly. And even my little guy will order his own meal. Like he knows exactly what he should, should be eating. Um, and it's incredible. So, but the commitment comes from first, you know, making sure that we're doing everything that we can to be healthy for them and staying committed to that, you know, long term. Um, it just becomes more who they are. So, um, another big tip is to make it fun. And, um, and this is a study that has absolutely been true in my life, but it's the number one laugh that I've gotten from the scoff, the laugh, the rolled eyes that I've gotten from parents in 16 years. You ready for it? So there was a study that said that, uh, that children will choose to cook in the kitchen if offered over playing video games. That's the, that's the quick summary of it.
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And every time that I've ever said that to parents, they'll about fall outta their chair in the middle of a workshop, right? They're, they'll, they'll like, give a loud laugh, but I'm telling you what I, I, I just, I, it's absolutely true for our family. It's absolutely true. Our kids will choose and so will their kids. Everybody listen to this right now. Your children will choose, they love you. It's, it's in their DNA to connect with you. If, if working towards healthy food together in the kitchen is about everything but food, right? And it's about the connection, the adventure of it, the learning possibilities of learning how to cook, um, if it speaks into their future, and it's like, you're gonna have to know how to cook someday and you need to learn how to cook healthy. You tell 'em the truth about how bad food actually creates disease in the body.
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And when they have children one day, they wanna be around for as long as possible. You tell 'em the truth and you connect and it's out of love. They will choose that 100 out of 100 times over whatever game that they're addicted to on Xbox or what, PlayStation, whatever the, I don't even know if that's still a game console, right? But whatever the new, the, the new stuff is out there right now, right? They will choose it a hundred percent of the time. And that's what our kids do over and over again. Like, they'll choose to go shoot archery out back versus play a game. They'll choose to run an errand into the store about 75% of the time to spend time with dad, you know, over doing something else. Um, they'll choose, uh, and they'll choose, absolutely. Choose to cook and prepare foods. Uh, you know, my little guy, like if you say, Hey, we're gonna make guacamole tonight for dinner, he'll literally stand in the kitchen just sitting there waiting for all the ingredient.
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Like, he won't even do anything else. Like, that's his thing. Like it's part of his, you know, part of his repertoire of the recipes that he knows. So anyway, so just believe me when I tell you, give it a chance, give it a chance. Just wait til the kids are playing the video games and then approach them with the right heart and with the right intention. And then when they do, when they do come down to participate, and you can make it a requirement at first, you know, you could fight for it and make it a requirement. Like you have to do it, come on down, and then make it fun with the right heart learning, et cetera. And I promise that with just a little bit of training, you will actually have a child who is excited to spend time with you in the kitchen versus any of these other things that, uh, actually create less health in their body. Any comments on that?
Brigitte Spurgeon (15:43):
Yeah, I think, you know, I hear a, a lot from parents that their children don't have a diverse palette. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So, you know, so many times I hear that, well, you know, my 11 year old will only eat chicken nuggets and bread.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (15:58):
Yeah. That's another big one.
Brigitte Spurgeon (15:59):
Now, you know, we, yeah, we, we can go back to, you know, we have to start them young having a diverse pallet. We have to, um, open their pallets to a variety of vegetables, fruits, proteins, et cetera. But not, some people are just, now, they're in that position where their children, um, don't eat a lot of foods. Well, I think what you just shared is a great way to engage them when they're engaged in the preparation and the plating, or even in the grocery shopping, they're going to be more apt to try new dishes when they're part of creating Absolutely. It. So, uh, you know, I think that could even be a Saturday project is, is have a recipe that you're going to going to do as a family or as a, you know, mother, daughter, son, you know, son, dad, something like that. And then even go, like, go to the farmer's market together and, you know, prepare, prepare the vegetables, prepare it together, plate it together, take pictures, Like make a whole experience out of this healthy meal, and they're gonna enjoy their own creation. I love
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (17:05):
It. That's absolutely, It's so true and it's been fun. And I hope that we continue to do that even into adulthood, you know, that, that we can, uh, continue to share in those healthy lifestyle, uh, habits together. Um, and certainly we'll be loving, sitting back, celebrating as they're doing those same things, uh, you know, with their children. Um, and so the last thing that I kind of wanted to dive into when it comes to solutions, um, and I already started to talk about something related to it as far as testing. Like you, you, a lot of people would say, Well, why would you test your kids? They don't have any symptoms. But remember that's that medical mindset. It's like, wait till it, you know, 65% of a disease process happens before you get the first symptoms. We're finding disease process and eight year olds on these autopsies, right?
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So we gotta get that kind of way of thinking out of our mindset and just say, our kids are stressed. Uh, maybe to this point, if you're listening to this, maybe they haven't eaten the best foods, um, you know, whatever it is. Like we have to assume that we should, that, that there are some recovery that's required and some proactivity, if not recovery, then at least proactivity. And so we test, we don't guess. Um, and so in the case when it comes to foods, there's, there's stool testing, which is absolutely incredible for determining, you know, how some, how a child's immune system's working or not working properly. Since 80% of the immune system, of course is in the gut. Uh, we can look at food allergy testing, you know, look at their skin health. There's so many things that we can look at. Um, but the number one test, uh, and a a as a chiropractor, the number one miracle producing test I guess that I've ever seen for a child is an x-ray.
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And that's because of how that spine is impacting the nervous system. And their nervous system is their stress response system. And you look at all the kids we talked about in the last episode, the a, d d, the adhd, all the neurological based issues that we've, you know, we've kind of destroyed a lot of that neurology with our lifestyle and nutrition, things like that, and our children and medications. And now, um, you know, I'm telling you that we can actually start to see where's the interference? How long has it been there? How long would it take to correct? And we've seen incredible results over the years, um, with correcting those x-rays and across the board with, with children's health issues. We're not saying chiropractic cures anything, but we are saying that when you remove interference, you take the x-rays, you can make a specific correction of interference that's happening.
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We see digestion get better. We see the ADHD and focus get better, grades go up. Um, we see, uh, the, the, you know, if they do fight something cuz kids will, you know, we all fight stuff. Virus suspect they're over it in two hours instead of two weeks, right? And so, um, and so this, this idea of, of testing and being proactive about our kids' health, and I guess the reason why I mention it here on this episode is because of the, just the stress factor. And I read that statistic, uh, to you before Bridget, but it says 80% of children are not in autonomic balance. And what does that mean? Well, our autonom nervous system is broken into two parts, the sympathetic and the parasympathetic, right? The parasympathetic is where everybody wants to spend the bulk of their time cuz that's the rest, digest, recover, reproduce, right?
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That's where we wanna spend the bulk of our time. And, and, and cuz then we're always moving forward with our health. The, the, and that's, that builds health. The other side of the autonomics is the sympathetic, which is the fight, flight, freeze, flee, right? That whole side. And so what they're saying in this study is, is that over 80% of our kids are in sympathetic dominance. That means that they're spending most of their time in some kind of stress state, which is catabolic, or it breaks the body down and it creates broken cells and broken organs in disease. And so the number one way that I, and we do functional testing to help understand how to help people that have gotten into autonomic imbalances and stuff. But the number one way that we can help our kids get out of that autonomic imbalance and get into a parasympathetic state of rest, digest, recover, and heal is through clearing the nervous system. Any comments on that at all?
Brigitte Spurgeon (21:19):
You know, I, I remember, uh, a dad referred his daughter to the clinic and I remember having a conversation with the mom. And the reason why he was referring his daughter is because she had a really life disruptive psoriasis. Her whole whole body, um, is just dealing with this, with this skin irritation. And she couldn't even wear a coat in winter time. And I remember having conversation with her mom and she said, I don't understand, like why, why I'm not going to a dermatologist. I don't understand why I'm being referred to a chiropractor for my daughter's skin. And so I remember ex explaining, just explaining the power of the nervous system and, and also of the gut. And, and sure enough, sure enough, she came in, we made a couple of tweaks in her diet as well. Um, and, and we focused on corrective chiropractic care. And it was amazing to see how her body, body healed
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (22:24):
Itself. I love it. Thank you very much for sharing that story.
Brigitte Spurgeon (22:26):
And now you know who, now you know who I'm talking about.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (22:28):
Oh, amazing. And there's so many stories of, you know, seizures resolving and I mean just quality of life improving across the board. And, um, yeah, there's this, uh, yeah. Anyway, it's, it's uh, I always say that my retirement's gonna be two to three days a week of just seeing the kids cuz that's the future, right? And it's so wildly impactful. Um, but, uh, and we covered so much fun stuff today is awesome. I mean, this is powerful stuff. If people are listening to this and you apply it, uh, and we're here for you to help you apply it. But I mean, we talked about things like, um, like clearing the nervous system, right? Taking x-rays, testing, uh, maybe doing other gut testing, right? We talked about starting with the y don't impose your own limiting beliefs, right? You have to do it first and have to be practicing it.
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But be real with your journey. Be real with your struggle with your kids. Don't be afraid. You don't have to be perfect. In fact, portraying perfection when you're not, cuz no one listen, this is, um, is one of the worst things that we can do with our kids. Um, make it fun, right? Talking about making it fun, doing things outside, getting a body moving, six minutes a day. Lots of great tips here. Um, so let's just end with a couple of your favorite suggestions for when it comes to nutrition. A couple of your favorite things that you've, uh, you know, you've helped with either through the weight loss program, cuz um, most people probably don't even realize, listen to this right now, that you actually have helped many younger, uh, young adults or children, um, you know, lose weight healthily and get their metabolics back in order. So what are some of your favorite things? I'll share maybe a couple of mind and then that'll wrap up today's episode. But hopefully just be the beginning of a discussion around how do we help these kids get and stay healthy for the long haul. So what are your top kind of nutrition tips when it comes to the kiddos?
Brigitte Spurgeon (24:09):
Yeah, I'm, I'm gonna go a little deep on this one just because I see how, um, the mindset around nutrition and weight and dieting impacts especially adult women, and it stems from maybe a relationship with, with a mother or an adult. And so I'm going to say really protect the mindset and the culture around nutrition in your home. Um, be careful that it doesn't become a dieting culture or restrictive culture. So that's why diversity of nutrition is important. Um, and, and that's why it's, it's around having healthy healing, whole food, nutrition, diversity of nutrition, not around calorie restriction or, uh, quantity restriction or, you know, we just have to protect that, uh, with our children and protect their mindset. And I'm gon I'm going to say do everything in your power to speak beauty and worth and value into them. Never tell them that, like, don't criticize their nutrition or their body or their looks or their lifestyle. It's all about just speaking that worth and love and truth into them. You educate them. But we don't want to do that in a, in a critical way because we wanna make sure we're not only setting up their nutrition and healthful success mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but we're setting up their mindset for success.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (25:41):
I love it. I love it. And, and we, we just forget that well, like our, at our issues, our sicknesses that we've dealt with, we need to not impute those onto our children and have them live a lifestyle congruent with that. Um, and I was just sitting there thinking that things like the 80 20 rule that works great for kids because they're generally really healthy, right? But if you do have a child, I just wanted to say this, if you do have a child that's struggling with a condition of some kind, um, then they really do need a consult so that we can, you know, cuz things have to be modified at whatever age according to the physiological state of the person, right? So, um, you know, I did wanna say that we say that on other episodes. I figured it'd be worth saying it here too.
(26:19):
Um, like 80 20 rule works for kids. Sometimes it doesn't work for adults because you've lived 40 years of metabolically destructive lifestyle and nutrition, um, you know, et cetera. So that's awesome because we have to realize we're, we're different, we're separate, but also they're just so primed and set up for success. Um, so much of it's just not getting in the way of that. Um, some really quick, like just I, you know, recipes and, and just ideas when it comes to food for kids that are common in our home and that we see patients doing a lot. Um, smoothies are my absolute favorite. You can't go wrong with a smoothie and you can get so much amazing nutrition in a smoothie. Simple recipes is just, you know, one cup of some kind of dairy alternative, a cup of fruit, um, and a couple tablespoons of some kind of healthy fat like, uh, a raw almond butter or MCT oil, you know, something along those lines.
(27:09):
I love, we love bone broth, uh, protein because that actually has a gut healing property. So knowing that kids are gonna get exposed to toxicity that wrecks the gut stress that's gonna wreck the gut, it's always good to have that baseline of some kind of a bone broth protein or a collagen protein maybe in there to help the gut healing and recovery from the day-to-day exposures, um, literally takes less than three minutes and they can have a full 500 calorie breakfast, I mean, right there in a cup. Um, and then a lot of crossover things like, so that same almond butter that goes in there can go into those fun things that we did as a kid, like ants on a log, right? Or, um, you know, um, certainly we can even make sandwiches nowadays and this like, my kids wanna have peanut butter and jelly fine.
(27:52):
So we go to raw almond butter or cashew butter, maybe we use preserves instead of sugar infused jellies and we use maybe even things like s sprouted grain bread or um, you know, like a ciel bread, right? So you, the children can still have some of their favorite things. We just have to use the substitution rule. So mimic their favorite thing with the appropriate substitutes. Um, and, uh, and, and one thing, I'll speak to this because I know and um, cuz I know that this will come up as cost, Um, it's true that those things can cause more money. Like, so as eco bread costs more money than Wonder Bread, I'm not gonna sit here and say that it doesn't. However, if you fully adopt this process and this lifestyle, then the things that we're no longer spending money on makes up the difference. And they've done this study even in Time Magazine, you know, put out an article with two different grocery carts so it doesn't have to cost more net cost, but you can't keep buying all of the bad things, all of the snacks and, and, and sugary treats and stuff like that that they shouldn't be having at all.
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And the new healthy stuff, right? Obviously that's gonna cost more, but if you take the money from those things and put it into the healthy, more nutrient dense things, and that's a beautiful thing too that we always teach, is that if you're eating more nutrient dense foods, you tend to not want, you don't have the cravings for the unhealthy stuff, you know, Um, or you have it less, I should say at the same time. So, you know, ultimately adopting the full lifestyle approach to nutrition really does not have to cost much more, or it doesn't have to cost more at all. Any comments on that from you there, Bridget?
Brigitte Spurgeon (29:27):
Yeah, I remember by those things you're also communicating worth, like your, your children are worth buying. Yeah, the, that's good, the good stuff in the grocery store. And, and please don't be the parent who only buys the good organic, uh, stuff for yourself and buy and buys the, the cheap snacks for your kids. Once again, it's communicating work to
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So there was a study that said that, uh, that children will choose to cook in the kitchen if offered over playing video games. Welcome to the True Health Solutions Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, stress, inflammation, and functional health clinician.
Brigitte Spurgeon (00:17):
And I'm your co-host Bridget Spurgeon Metabolism and nutrition expert.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (00:21):
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Brigitte Spurgeon (00:26):
Because the world needs the best version of you.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (00:31):
All right. So welcome back to True Health Solutions podcast. I am your host, Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, here with the
Brigitte Spurgeon (00:36):
Bridget Spurgeon.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (00:38):
And we are wrapping up our two part series on raising healthy children. And I wanted to start off with where we ended last time. Uh, when we ended the last episode, we were talking about, uh, screen time and how it's negatively impacting the brain. Uh, and the truth is it's impacting the brain negatively in ways that we don't even fully understand because we haven't lived long enough with that type of exposure to know the long term repercussions. And really the solution, which today's the solutions podcast from everything we talked about last time, and the solution, um, is equally as, um, unknown as challenging to understand, because again, it hasn't been around long enough, but there have been some studies that have been going on for a little while, and they're starting to report the data in different age groups. And so I wanted to start, you know, so, so something as simple as not doing it can still be considered a solution even if it's not what people want to hear, right?
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And so how do we, So what's the solution for the negative impact of the digital world on our children's brains that controls everything in their body? Um, and, uh, and here I have it. So from ages zero to two, the recommendation is zero time in front of any kind of a screen. So no handing the phone, no iPads, no iPad holders onto the, you know, the car carriers sitting in the back to, to get the babies to zone out completely and all that stuff there. That, that it's very clear they said that there's absolutely zero benefit whatsoever and only a ton of detriment to all of those developing neural pathways up to the age of two. And then, uh, and then as some of those pathways are being developed, there can be some exposure to those type of graphical digital things. And so, um, but then they said that between the ages of two and five, the maximum, so this isn't like run it up to the max every day, right?
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But the maximum exposure should be one hour again or less, right? So maximum no more than 60 minutes in a given day. So if that's 15 minutes to the grocery store, 15 minutes from the grocery store, that's half of it right there. And then at the same time, it's uh, uh, 15 minutes each way, 30 minutes and then, you know, maximum of 30 minutes for the rest of the day. Um, and then, uh, for anybody that's six plus as a part of this study, in review of the data they're talking about, uh, absolutely, like completely unknown, They have no idea at that point, we, we, it starts to become a factor. Are they sleeping enough? Are they getting physical activity? Are they meeting other behavioral requirements for, you know, developing proper health? Um, and the best that we can start to do is try to, you know, do ratios they say of like, if you're gonna have, uh, you should have two times as much physical activity as digital exposure, right?
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So if you're gonna have 60 minutes, then you should be active for, you know, the minimum requirement daily for children is 60 minutes, but even up to now 120 minutes to offset some of the negative effects of the digital. Which to most parents that are listening to that right now, they're like, How's that even possible? And, and we agree <laugh>, like, you know, the data is staggering of how negatively impactful the digital stuff is. So we just have to do the best that we can to reduce that limited and get as much activity, have clean nutrition and other behavioral support. So any comments on that for you? Uh, Bridget, as far as just that digital exposure, you know, behavioral changes, et cetera?
Brigitte Spurgeon (03:54):
Yes. I would say that you, um, as a family have to be intentional with getting outside getting in the outdoors sunshine, nature, like Dr. Bagwell said activity as much as possible. So that means you have to be really intentional, whether that be your evening time and then also your weekend time value experiences as a family. And I would just structure them so that they are outdoors. I know Dr. Bagwell with his boys, you know, he takes them camping and, and hiking and you know, they, um, they've really, you know, their family culture is around, around the outdoors. And, and I love that. And, you know, some families, they may do it around travel experiences will, that's still great. It's like you just have to get them out the house and they will embrace that. That is way more exciting. You wanna make, you wanna create experiences that are more exciting than sitting in front of a screen or a game or a TV show. Um, you know, give them an an epic life as kids.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (04:59):
Amen. Exactly. That's the best way to put it. And that speaks a little bit to one of the other solutions, which is exercise. And most people don't even realize that the recommendation for total exercise in a day is 60 minutes, which I think, I think I read the stat was only one third of all children across the board of all ages are getting 60 minutes of actual exercise outside. Right? Which, and if you think about it, a lot of times, I would say when they're younger, like they, we, you do go for little walks and things like that quite a bit. So it just really tells you about how much exercise older kids are not getting as they're being exposed to digital interventions. Right. Did the world of digital distraction, um, and also, and and
Brigitte Spurgeon (05:38):
To speak more about get an energetic dog.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (05:41):
Yeah. Right. Exactly. Right, Exactly.
Brigitte Spurgeon (05:43):
And have the kids take the dog for walks three times a day like we're doing here in Ireland.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (05:47):
So, so many options, right? Of just kitten moving to some degree. But I like what you said, and it was absolutely a part of what we've talked about is there's a lot of things that kids have interest in, in, but we've always said, Okay, you want to play chess and learn chess, or you wanna learn the guitar, that's amazing. It's got incredible benefits for your brain, et cetera, et cetera. But you must do something active at the same time. You, you, we, we've never said you can just do something that's mentally stimulating or, or definitely can't just do something that's digital mindless, right? You have to do some. So now my kids do things like competitive archery. Again, backpacking, like anything that gets 'em outside. Um, and, um, and, you know, proves hand-eye coordination, developing, you know, continue to develop that. Um, we're all for it and encourage it like nobody's business.
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And you can't, your kids will choose those things. You said it, I want to re reiterate that. They will choose the adventure. They will choose the adventure of their own life versus some mindless adventure that's caught in a, behind a screen. Okay? Like, and that leads us into what really the number one thing is if you want to, you want your kids to be healthy, and nobody wants to hear this, right? But you have got to fully commit to being healthy and, and living one step ahead of how healthy you want your children to be. Right? That is our number one shared solution. We've talked about it before. We, we teach it all the time. Um, you know, and, uh, and I remember when Colin, my older son now, when he looked up me, I would be just like you dad. And, uh, you shared a story on last podcast about a dad and their children, you know, and I remember looking up and, um, when he was a kid, he looked right up at me and I was like, having that melt moment, you know, like, you're just like trying to hold the tears back.
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And then as we continued to talk, I realized, like, he might think that as my son, but also he was referencing in that moment how big I was. He's like, I wanna be big like you. And I just remember thinking that could mean a lot of things. Like, I have a lot of work to do here, right? Because that could mean he wants to be, you know, big and strong, right? That kind of thing. But also I'm also showing him that big, unhealthy big is okay also. And it wasn't. And so it really started to get my mind turning of like, okay, like I teach a lot and we do a lot. Now I have to be a lot different. And so, um, and that was the beginning of me taking responsibility, um, you know, for what I was showing my children. And let's just be clear.
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Let's be, I mean, our world's crazy. We got busyness all over the place, you know, running all over and all that stuff, whatever. I don't get this perfect all the time. I mean, I think it's important to say that like I gotta teach it how it is, right? We're gonna teach truth, but I'm also gonna share the truth about, you know, like, uh, you know about how I don't, I don't have a 100% perfect gluten free life over the last 365 days, right? Like, you know, like they're seeing me, uh, implore many of the rules that we teach them, but I'm also not operating outside of those rules, right? So one of the examples would be like, and in that case, when it comes to food, be like the 80 20 rule, like we don't, the 20% that they're consuming is certainly not the worst of the worst, right? They're not having like awful disgust. They're not eating high fructose corn and syrup like we talked about last episode. They're not having any of that, right? That's bad regardless. Um, but, uh, we do raise them in such a way that their food that they're eating at home consistently is always organic, clean, pristine, right? So that when we are out, they can choose to have something that their friends are having and they don't feel like they're completely deprived.
Brigitte Spurgeon (09:20):
Yeah. I would even say that perfectionism, when it comes to food, that even becomes problematic in itself. So there definitely is. I I love the 80, the 80 20 or, or the 90 10 or I think 80 20 is, you know, great for families because the, the 80% that like, that's forming the foundation for, for their selves and their future, but they, they don't become obsessive about their nutrition. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they don't stress about their nutrition. Like, you know, Hey, I'm out with friends or, or I'm at a birthday party. It's not as big of a deal, but you know what happens? And you've probably seen, seen this, but when they eat well at home and when they're on vacation with you and you're buying those good things, now they're making better choices by themselves when they are out with friends or with with other people because they don't like the, the poor quality foods anymore.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (10:16):
That's right. And we, uh, that is exactly how it's worked out for us. And, uh, and they, they, they know places. There's places that they've never eaten, lots of fast food places they've never stepped foot in. Um, and then they've been caught out on like, uh, when they ride with other families on like, uh, camping trips and stuff like that, and they stop at a fast food place, and they absolutely will choose the salad option, you know, there, because that's the best thing that, so they can avoid most of the other stuff. So you're absolutely right. And, and again, it's, it's about like, we have to be, we our why has to be so big. And when I, when I keep saying the word why, I just picture my two boys like a picture of them in my, in my face right now. And, and they're, they, they're big enough for me to live differently so that they can live differently.
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And so, and and, and to your point, like I I, I shared this on another episode. It's, we go to the beach and we have beach nachos. Like we're eat nachos at the beach. It's a guarantee, it's a guarantee. 100% of the time we're gonna have that because that's one of our great family memories. But it's c eight day chips, grain-free, you know, goat shredded, goat cheddar, You know what I mean? It's all the healthiest version of that that you could ever have. And they prefer that over any other nachos. Like there's no nachos you can get at the restaurant, be why? Because we've, we've, we've trained that into them. There's a memory and emotion attached to it, right? And so if they want nachos, they want the ones that they've had many times with mom and dad that they make together in the kitchen, you know, et cetera.
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And, um, and so, and I give all the credit to, to my wife for, um, you know, staying in there during the tough battles over eating avocado when they're little, you know, before they could talk and, you know, all those things. It's just something you have to be committed to for the, the long haul. And, um, and, uh, and then you, when you're doing the 80 20 rule, you gotta walk 'em through the 20% consistently. You can't just say, Oh, 80 20 rule, and then go do whatever you want. You walk 'em through the best choices. Um, but now at ages 13 and 17 here in the next couple of weeks, um, then they are, uh, they're absolutely making amazing choices that blows me away. And I will be honest, like I said before, like, I know my food allergies, they know their food allergies, like we do testing, um, and, uh, and they can, and, and they'll eat cleaner at some meals because of their food allergies than I do, like when we go out to eat, because I, I'll, I'll eat within mine and they'll eat within theirs, and their food actually ends up being cleaner and nobody even talks about it.
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They just order accordingly. And even my little guy will order his own meal. Like he knows exactly what he should, should be eating. Um, and it's incredible. So, but the commitment comes from first, you know, making sure that we're doing everything that we can to be healthy for them and staying committed to that, you know, long term. Um, it just becomes more who they are. So, um, another big tip is to make it fun. And, um, and this is a study that has absolutely been true in my life, but it's the number one laugh that I've gotten from the scoff, the laugh, the rolled eyes that I've gotten from parents in 16 years. You ready for it? So there was a study that said that, uh, that children will choose to cook in the kitchen if offered over playing video games. That's the, that's the quick summary of it.
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And every time that I've ever said that to parents, they'll about fall outta their chair in the middle of a workshop, right? They're, they'll, they'll like, give a loud laugh, but I'm telling you what I, I, I just, I, it's absolutely true for our family. It's absolutely true. Our kids will choose and so will their kids. Everybody listen to this right now. Your children will choose, they love you. It's, it's in their DNA to connect with you. If, if working towards healthy food together in the kitchen is about everything but food, right? And it's about the connection, the adventure of it, the learning possibilities of learning how to cook, um, if it speaks into their future, and it's like, you're gonna have to know how to cook someday and you need to learn how to cook healthy. You tell 'em the truth about how bad food actually creates disease in the body.
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And when they have children one day, they wanna be around for as long as possible. You tell 'em the truth and you connect and it's out of love. They will choose that 100 out of 100 times over whatever game that they're addicted to on Xbox or what, PlayStation, whatever the, I don't even know if that's still a game console, right? But whatever the new, the, the new stuff is out there right now, right? They will choose it a hundred percent of the time. And that's what our kids do over and over again. Like, they'll choose to go shoot archery out back versus play a game. They'll choose to run an errand into the store about 75% of the time to spend time with dad, you know, over doing something else. Um, they'll choose, uh, and they'll choose, absolutely. Choose to cook and prepare foods. Uh, you know, my little guy, like if you say, Hey, we're gonna make guacamole tonight for dinner, he'll literally stand in the kitchen just sitting there waiting for all the ingredient.
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Like, he won't even do anything else. Like, that's his thing. Like it's part of his, you know, part of his repertoire of the recipes that he knows. So anyway, so just believe me when I tell you, give it a chance, give it a chance. Just wait til the kids are playing the video games and then approach them with the right heart and with the right intention. And then when they do, when they do come down to participate, and you can make it a requirement at first, you know, you could fight for it and make it a requirement. Like you have to do it, come on down, and then make it fun with the right heart learning, et cetera. And I promise that with just a little bit of training, you will actually have a child who is excited to spend time with you in the kitchen versus any of these other things that, uh, actually create less health in their body. Any comments on that?
Brigitte Spurgeon (15:43):
Yeah, I think, you know, I hear a, a lot from parents that their children don't have a diverse palette. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So, you know, so many times I hear that, well, you know, my 11 year old will only eat chicken nuggets and bread.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (15:58):
Yeah. That's another big one.
Brigitte Spurgeon (15:59):
Now, you know, we, yeah, we, we can go back to, you know, we have to start them young having a diverse pallet. We have to, um, open their pallets to a variety of vegetables, fruits, proteins, et cetera. But not, some people are just, now, they're in that position where their children, um, don't eat a lot of foods. Well, I think what you just shared is a great way to engage them when they're engaged in the preparation and the plating, or even in the grocery shopping, they're going to be more apt to try new dishes when they're part of creating Absolutely. It. So, uh, you know, I think that could even be a Saturday project is, is have a recipe that you're going to going to do as a family or as a, you know, mother, daughter, son, you know, son, dad, something like that. And then even go, like, go to the farmer's market together and, you know, prepare, prepare the vegetables, prepare it together, plate it together, take pictures, Like make a whole experience out of this healthy meal, and they're gonna enjoy their own creation. I love
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (17:05):
It. That's absolutely, It's so true and it's been fun. And I hope that we continue to do that even into adulthood, you know, that, that we can, uh, continue to share in those healthy lifestyle, uh, habits together. Um, and certainly we'll be loving, sitting back, celebrating as they're doing those same things, uh, you know, with their children. Um, and so the last thing that I kind of wanted to dive into when it comes to solutions, um, and I already started to talk about something related to it as far as testing. Like you, you, a lot of people would say, Well, why would you test your kids? They don't have any symptoms. But remember that's that medical mindset. It's like, wait till it, you know, 65% of a disease process happens before you get the first symptoms. We're finding disease process and eight year olds on these autopsies, right?
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So we gotta get that kind of way of thinking out of our mindset and just say, our kids are stressed. Uh, maybe to this point, if you're listening to this, maybe they haven't eaten the best foods, um, you know, whatever it is. Like we have to assume that we should, that, that there are some recovery that's required and some proactivity, if not recovery, then at least proactivity. And so we test, we don't guess. Um, and so in the case when it comes to foods, there's, there's stool testing, which is absolutely incredible for determining, you know, how some, how a child's immune system's working or not working properly. Since 80% of the immune system, of course is in the gut. Uh, we can look at food allergy testing, you know, look at their skin health. There's so many things that we can look at. Um, but the number one test, uh, and a a as a chiropractor, the number one miracle producing test I guess that I've ever seen for a child is an x-ray.
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And that's because of how that spine is impacting the nervous system. And their nervous system is their stress response system. And you look at all the kids we talked about in the last episode, the a, d d, the adhd, all the neurological based issues that we've, you know, we've kind of destroyed a lot of that neurology with our lifestyle and nutrition, things like that, and our children and medications. And now, um, you know, I'm telling you that we can actually start to see where's the interference? How long has it been there? How long would it take to correct? And we've seen incredible results over the years, um, with correcting those x-rays and across the board with, with children's health issues. We're not saying chiropractic cures anything, but we are saying that when you remove interference, you take the x-rays, you can make a specific correction of interference that's happening.
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We see digestion get better. We see the ADHD and focus get better, grades go up. Um, we see, uh, the, the, you know, if they do fight something cuz kids will, you know, we all fight stuff. Virus suspect they're over it in two hours instead of two weeks, right? And so, um, and so this, this idea of, of testing and being proactive about our kids' health, and I guess the reason why I mention it here on this episode is because of the, just the stress factor. And I read that statistic, uh, to you before Bridget, but it says 80% of children are not in autonomic balance. And what does that mean? Well, our autonom nervous system is broken into two parts, the sympathetic and the parasympathetic, right? The parasympathetic is where everybody wants to spend the bulk of their time cuz that's the rest, digest, recover, reproduce, right?
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That's where we wanna spend the bulk of our time. And, and, and cuz then we're always moving forward with our health. The, the, and that's, that builds health. The other side of the autonomics is the sympathetic, which is the fight, flight, freeze, flee, right? That whole side. And so what they're saying in this study is, is that over 80% of our kids are in sympathetic dominance. That means that they're spending most of their time in some kind of stress state, which is catabolic, or it breaks the body down and it creates broken cells and broken organs in disease. And so the number one way that I, and we do functional testing to help understand how to help people that have gotten into autonomic imbalances and stuff. But the number one way that we can help our kids get out of that autonomic imbalance and get into a parasympathetic state of rest, digest, recover, and heal is through clearing the nervous system. Any comments on that at all?
Brigitte Spurgeon (21:19):
You know, I, I remember, uh, a dad referred his daughter to the clinic and I remember having a conversation with the mom. And the reason why he was referring his daughter is because she had a really life disruptive psoriasis. Her whole whole body, um, is just dealing with this, with this skin irritation. And she couldn't even wear a coat in winter time. And I remember having conversation with her mom and she said, I don't understand, like why, why I'm not going to a dermatologist. I don't understand why I'm being referred to a chiropractor for my daughter's skin. And so I remember ex explaining, just explaining the power of the nervous system and, and also of the gut. And, and sure enough, sure enough, she came in, we made a couple of tweaks in her diet as well. Um, and, and we focused on corrective chiropractic care. And it was amazing to see how her body, body healed
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (22:24):
Itself. I love it. Thank you very much for sharing that story.
Brigitte Spurgeon (22:26):
And now you know who, now you know who I'm talking about.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (22:28):
Oh, amazing. And there's so many stories of, you know, seizures resolving and I mean just quality of life improving across the board. And, um, yeah, there's this, uh, yeah. Anyway, it's, it's uh, I always say that my retirement's gonna be two to three days a week of just seeing the kids cuz that's the future, right? And it's so wildly impactful. Um, but, uh, and we covered so much fun stuff today is awesome. I mean, this is powerful stuff. If people are listening to this and you apply it, uh, and we're here for you to help you apply it. But I mean, we talked about things like, um, like clearing the nervous system, right? Taking x-rays, testing, uh, maybe doing other gut testing, right? We talked about starting with the y don't impose your own limiting beliefs, right? You have to do it first and have to be practicing it.
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But be real with your journey. Be real with your struggle with your kids. Don't be afraid. You don't have to be perfect. In fact, portraying perfection when you're not, cuz no one listen, this is, um, is one of the worst things that we can do with our kids. Um, make it fun, right? Talking about making it fun, doing things outside, getting a body moving, six minutes a day. Lots of great tips here. Um, so let's just end with a couple of your favorite suggestions for when it comes to nutrition. A couple of your favorite things that you've, uh, you know, you've helped with either through the weight loss program, cuz um, most people probably don't even realize, listen to this right now, that you actually have helped many younger, uh, young adults or children, um, you know, lose weight healthily and get their metabolics back in order. So what are some of your favorite things? I'll share maybe a couple of mind and then that'll wrap up today's episode. But hopefully just be the beginning of a discussion around how do we help these kids get and stay healthy for the long haul. So what are your top kind of nutrition tips when it comes to the kiddos?
Brigitte Spurgeon (24:09):
Yeah, I'm, I'm gonna go a little deep on this one just because I see how, um, the mindset around nutrition and weight and dieting impacts especially adult women, and it stems from maybe a relationship with, with a mother or an adult. And so I'm going to say really protect the mindset and the culture around nutrition in your home. Um, be careful that it doesn't become a dieting culture or restrictive culture. So that's why diversity of nutrition is important. Um, and, and that's why it's, it's around having healthy healing, whole food, nutrition, diversity of nutrition, not around calorie restriction or, uh, quantity restriction or, you know, we just have to protect that, uh, with our children and protect their mindset. And I'm gon I'm going to say do everything in your power to speak beauty and worth and value into them. Never tell them that, like, don't criticize their nutrition or their body or their looks or their lifestyle. It's all about just speaking that worth and love and truth into them. You educate them. But we don't want to do that in a, in a critical way because we wanna make sure we're not only setting up their nutrition and healthful success mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but we're setting up their mindset for success.
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (25:41):
I love it. I love it. And, and we, we just forget that well, like our, at our issues, our sicknesses that we've dealt with, we need to not impute those onto our children and have them live a lifestyle congruent with that. Um, and I was just sitting there thinking that things like the 80 20 rule that works great for kids because they're generally really healthy, right? But if you do have a child, I just wanted to say this, if you do have a child that's struggling with a condition of some kind, um, then they really do need a consult so that we can, you know, cuz things have to be modified at whatever age according to the physiological state of the person, right? So, um, you know, I did wanna say that we say that on other episodes. I figured it'd be worth saying it here too.
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Um, like 80 20 rule works for kids. Sometimes it doesn't work for adults because you've lived 40 years of metabolically destructive lifestyle and nutrition, um, you know, et cetera. So that's awesome because we have to realize we're, we're different, we're separate, but also they're just so primed and set up for success. Um, so much of it's just not getting in the way of that. Um, some really quick, like just I, you know, recipes and, and just ideas when it comes to food for kids that are common in our home and that we see patients doing a lot. Um, smoothies are my absolute favorite. You can't go wrong with a smoothie and you can get so much amazing nutrition in a smoothie. Simple recipes is just, you know, one cup of some kind of dairy alternative, a cup of fruit, um, and a couple tablespoons of some kind of healthy fat like, uh, a raw almond butter or MCT oil, you know, something along those lines.
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I love, we love bone broth, uh, protein because that actually has a gut healing property. So knowing that kids are gonna get exposed to toxicity that wrecks the gut stress that's gonna wreck the gut, it's always good to have that baseline of some kind of a bone broth protein or a collagen protein maybe in there to help the gut healing and recovery from the day-to-day exposures, um, literally takes less than three minutes and they can have a full 500 calorie breakfast, I mean, right there in a cup. Um, and then a lot of crossover things like, so that same almond butter that goes in there can go into those fun things that we did as a kid, like ants on a log, right? Or, um, you know, um, certainly we can even make sandwiches nowadays and this like, my kids wanna have peanut butter and jelly fine.
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So we go to raw almond butter or cashew butter, maybe we use preserves instead of sugar infused jellies and we use maybe even things like s sprouted grain bread or um, you know, like a ciel bread, right? So you, the children can still have some of their favorite things. We just have to use the substitution rule. So mimic their favorite thing with the appropriate substitutes. Um, and, uh, and, and one thing, I'll speak to this because I know and um, cuz I know that this will come up as cost, Um, it's true that those things can cause more money. Like, so as eco bread costs more money than Wonder Bread, I'm not gonna sit here and say that it doesn't. However, if you fully adopt this process and this lifestyle, then the things that we're no longer spending money on makes up the difference. And they've done this study even in Time Magazine, you know, put out an article with two different grocery carts so it doesn't have to cost more net cost, but you can't keep buying all of the bad things, all of the snacks and, and, and sugary treats and stuff like that that they shouldn't be having at all.
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And the new healthy stuff, right? Obviously that's gonna cost more, but if you take the money from those things and put it into the healthy, more nutrient dense things, and that's a beautiful thing too that we always teach, is that if you're eating more nutrient dense foods, you tend to not want, you don't have the cravings for the unhealthy stuff, you know, Um, or you have it less, I should say at the same time. So, you know, ultimately adopting the full lifestyle approach to nutrition really does not have to cost much more, or it doesn't have to cost more at all. Any comments on that from you there, Bridget?
Brigitte Spurgeon (29:27):
Yeah, I remember by those things you're also communicating worth, like your, your children are worth buying. Yeah, the, that's good, the good stuff in the grocery store. And, and please don't be the parent who only buys the good organic, uh, stuff for yourself and buy and buys the, the cheap snacks for your kids. Once again, it's communicating work to
Dr. Lonnie Bagwell, DC (29:47):
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